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SashaThumper
QUOTE (RoyaleWithCheese @ Mar 21 2006, 02:55 PM)
QUOTE (SashaThumper @ Mar 21 2006, 02:52 PM)
QUOTE (RoyaleWithCheese @ Mar 21 2006, 02:46 PM)
$140 lunch for 3???

wink.gif

This deal better come through.

so no steak for me, huh? smile.gif

unsure.gif

I hope you got a taste for Arthur's Treachers

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

You want Super Size??? You order Super Size.

smile.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif don't spoil me, cheesy poof....
Irie
Hmmmmm.....

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Quel
Care to throw out a Random Name????
Quel
QUOTE (brooklynchicalette2 @ Mar 21 2006, 02:31 PM)
Dime- you know Ima give you a pass cause I know your history-- but you know how I feel..
choke em' -

OMG I almost choked on a fucking pretzel just now. Choke em laugh.gif I feel the same damn way.

So if there is no such thing as a bad kid just misguided parents does that mean when that child is clearly having behavioral problems its the parents fault?

Irie
QUOTE (Quel @ Mar 21 2006, 03:52 PM)
Care to throw out a Random Name????

laugh.gif

there have been too many instances to remember. it's just a random lil somethin somethin that occured to me cool.gif
dimendaruff
QUOTE (Quel @ Mar 21 2006, 03:57 PM)
QUOTE (brooklynchicalette2 @ Mar 21 2006, 02:31 PM)
Dime- you know Ima give you a pass cause I know your history-- but you know how I feel..
choke em' -

OMG I almost choked on a fucking pretzel just now. Choke em laugh.gif I feel the same damn way.

So if there is no such thing as a bad kid just misguided parents does that mean when that child is clearly having behavioral problems its the parents fault?

depending on the age of the child..is most cases, yes it is the parents fault...lack of something...there r cases where the child is "acting out" as a cry 4 attention...then there r cases where u have a child that comes from a seemingly "perfect" home and they act out just 2 go against the masses, the rebellion type, "goths"...there is always an underlying cause 2 children having behavioral problems, and in my experiences in most cases it has been due 2 the parent(s)...
ELOCIN
QUOTE (Quel @ Mar 21 2006, 03:57 PM)
So if there is no such thing as a bad kid just misguided parents does that mean when that child is clearly having behavioral problems its the parents fault?

um judging from my own bad ass kid......I'd have to say yea. sad.gif sad.gif


But I do feel a smidge is personality. Naturally shy/recluse children won't have the same issues of a child who's very outgoing and chatty.

Now disrepectful........that's mama's fault. unsure.gif
HoneyBee
QUOTE (Irie @ Mar 21 2006, 03:28 PM)
Hmmmmm.....

user posted image

Some folks on The Crusade command more respect than others. Take some quasi-lame comment offered up in “Random Thoughts”. Posted up by one member, it may get barely an acknowledgement, but let certain others say it, and watch all the cheerleaders and yes-men run with it

What a cute lil hmmmmm picture!! biggrin.gif He looks so cute thinking...
That is the way it goes on TC...lol!!
msdms
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:02 PM)
QUOTE (Quel @ Mar 21 2006, 03:57 PM)
QUOTE (brooklynchicalette2 @ Mar 21 2006, 02:31 PM)
Dime- you know Ima give you a pass cause I know your history-- but you know how I feel..
choke em' -

OMG I almost choked on a fucking pretzel just now. Choke em laugh.gif I feel the same damn way.

So if there is no such thing as a bad kid just misguided parents does that mean when that child is clearly having behavioral problems its the parents fault?

depending on the age of the child..is most cases, yes it is the parents fault...lack of something...there r cases where the child is "acting out" as a cry 4 attention...then there r cases where u have a child that comes from a seemingly "perfect" home and they act out just 2 go against the masses, the rebellion type, "goths"...there is always an underlying cause 2 children having behavioral problems, and in my experiences in most cases it has been due 2 the parent(s)...

do you subscribe to the add/adhd school of thought... where no one is particularly to blame, more of a chemical imbalance some where... b/c what may be considered "bad" can be hyperactivity, attention deficit, etc. is that still the parent's "fault"?
dimendaruff
and my son as well...i know his behavior is because i spoil him...i hate hate hate 2 hear him cry and hes a smart kid, he knows this...and he plays me every damn time...all he has 2 do is pout that bottom lip and whatever he wants he gets unsure.gif its something i know i need 2 nip in the bud, but its very hard..because well he's my baby...so as a parent, i see the mistakes i am making and i can only pray 2 God that i correct them b4 its 2 late...
Irie
QUOTE (HoneyBee @ Mar 21 2006, 04:05 PM)
QUOTE (Irie @ Mar 21 2006, 03:28 PM)
Hmmmmm.....

user posted image

Some folks on The Crusade command more respect than others. Take some quasi-lame comment offered up in “Random Thoughts”. Posted up by one member, it may get barely an acknowledgement, but let certain others say it, and watch all the cheerleaders and yes-men run with it

What a cute lil hmmmmm picture!! biggrin.gif He looks so cute thinking...
That is the way it goes on TC...lol!!

yup yup
dimendaruff
QUOTE (msdms @ Mar 21 2006, 04:07 PM)
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:02 PM)
QUOTE (Quel @ Mar 21 2006, 03:57 PM)
QUOTE (brooklynchicalette2 @ Mar 21 2006, 02:31 PM)
Dime- you know Ima give you a pass cause I know your history-- but you know how I feel..
choke em' -

OMG I almost choked on a fucking pretzel just now. Choke em laugh.gif I feel the same damn way.

So if there is no such thing as a bad kid just misguided parents does that mean when that child is clearly having behavioral problems its the parents fault?

depending on the age of the child..is most cases, yes it is the parents fault...lack of something...there r cases where the child is "acting out" as a cry 4 attention...then there r cases where u have a child that comes from a seemingly "perfect" home and they act out just 2 go against the masses, the rebellion type, "goths"...there is always an underlying cause 2 children having behavioral problems, and in my experiences in most cases it has been due 2 the parent(s)...

do you subscribe to the add/adhd school of thought... where no one is particularly to blame, more of a chemical imbalance some where... b/c what may be considered "bad" can be hyperactivity, attention deficit, etc. is that still the parent's "fault"?

adhd IMO is used as a cop-out diagnosis from therapists(psychiatrists) who dont wanna work and just wanna dope kids up, and parents who r too damn lazy 2 get 2 the reason behind whats going on....i find it hard 2 believe that there is a child who can not be helped thru proper guidance and support...i dont subscribe 2 chemical imbalances and druggin ppl up 4 the rest of his/her lives...
HoneyBee
hmmmm, I don't practically care for Addriol and Ritalin for kids...
I just seen a study on Good Morning America and the effects of Ritalin once you stop using the drug. They are prescribing Ritalin for Adults calling it ADD. They asked a lady, “If you could add 10 more years to your life or quit taking Ritalin which would you choose?” The lady said, “I will take the Ritalin and never stop”
Some tough talk is what they need and a "good act" right hand on the fanny!!
Quel
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:07 PM)
and my son as well...i know his behavior is because i spoil him...i hate hate hate 2 hear him cry and hes a smart kid, he knows this...and he plays me every damn time...all he has 2 do is pout that bottom lip and whatever he wants he gets unsure.gif its something i know i need 2 nip in the bud, but its very hard..because well he's my baby...so as a parent, i see the mistakes i am making and i can only pray 2 God that i correct them b4 its 2 late...

Child Please. Dime you cool with me by way of Tc ive grown to have a luh for you BUT. You are the kind of person I would like to fuck up every now and then!! mad.gif I've seen kids act a fool, good smart kids and I want to just whoop their parents ass cause its their fault they are allowing the devil to work thru their child. Sorry. just venting.

Quel
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:12 PM)
QUOTE (msdms @ Mar 21 2006, 04:07 PM)
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:02 PM)
QUOTE (Quel @ Mar 21 2006, 03:57 PM)
QUOTE (brooklynchicalette2 @ Mar 21 2006, 02:31 PM)
Dime- you know Ima give you a pass cause I know your history-- but you know how I feel..
choke em' -

OMG I almost choked on a fucking pretzel just now. Choke em laugh.gif I feel the same damn way.

So if there is no such thing as a bad kid just misguided parents does that mean when that child is clearly having behavioral problems its the parents fault?

depending on the age of the child..is most cases, yes it is the parents fault...lack of something...there r cases where the child is "acting out" as a cry 4 attention...then there r cases where u have a child that comes from a seemingly "perfect" home and they act out just 2 go against the masses, the rebellion type, "goths"...there is always an underlying cause 2 children having behavioral problems, and in my experiences in most cases it has been due 2 the parent(s)...

do you subscribe to the add/adhd school of thought... where no one is particularly to blame, more of a chemical imbalance some where... b/c what may be considered "bad" can be hyperactivity, attention deficit, etc. is that still the parent's "fault"?

adhd IMO is used as a cop-out diagnosis from therapists(psychiatrists) who dont wanna work and just wanna dope kids up, and parents who r too damn lazy 2 get 2 the reason behind whats going on....i find it hard 2 believe that there is a child who can not be helped thru proper guidance and support...i dont subscribe 2 chemical imbalances and druggin ppl up 4 the rest of his/her lives...

Its a definite cop out. It amazes me when I see children with this supposed add/ adhd get their shit together quick fast when its something they want to do. Shit I was diagnosed with add not adhd and I knew when the hell to settle down and focus.

I dont believe in that acting out for attention shit either. Choke em
dimendaruff
QUOTE (HoneyBee @ Mar 21 2006, 04:13 PM)
hmmmm, I don't practically care for Addriol and Ritalin for kids...
I just seen a study on Good Morning America and the effects of Ritalin once you stop using the drug. They are prescribing Ritalin for Adults calling it ADD. They asked a lady, “If you could add 10 more years to your life or quit taking Ritalin which would you choose?” The lady said, “I will take the Ritalin and never stop”
Some tough talk is what they need and a "good act" right hand on the fanny!!

ritalin is the prescription crack 4 real sad.gif highly addictive...
tarheelnny
QUEL....ur comment to DIME just mad me spit up my JUICE!! ha ha!!


msdms
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:12 PM)
QUOTE (msdms @ Mar 21 2006, 04:07 PM)
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:02 PM)
QUOTE (Quel @ Mar 21 2006, 03:57 PM)
QUOTE (brooklynchicalette2 @ Mar 21 2006, 02:31 PM)
Dime- you know Ima give you a pass cause I know your history-- but you know how I feel..
choke em' -

OMG I almost choked on a fucking pretzel just now. Choke em laugh.gif I feel the same damn way.

So if there is no such thing as a bad kid just misguided parents does that mean when that child is clearly having behavioral problems its the parents fault?

depending on the age of the child..is most cases, yes it is the parents fault...lack of something...there r cases where the child is "acting out" as a cry 4 attention...then there r cases where u have a child that comes from a seemingly "perfect" home and they act out just 2 go against the masses, the rebellion type, "goths"...there is always an underlying cause 2 children having behavioral problems, and in my experiences in most cases it has been due 2 the parent(s)...

do you subscribe to the add/adhd school of thought... where no one is particularly to blame, more of a chemical imbalance some where... b/c what may be considered "bad" can be hyperactivity, attention deficit, etc. is that still the parent's "fault"?

adhd IMO is used as a cop-out diagnosis from therapists(psychiatrists) who dont wanna work and just wanna dope kids up, and parents who r too damn lazy 2 get 2 the reason behind whats going on....i find it hard 2 believe that there is a child who can not be helped thru proper guidance and support...i dont subscribe 2 chemical imbalances and druggin ppl up 4 the rest of his/her lives...

well. um. chemical imbalances are real.... just like the ones women go through every month (if they are still menstruating)

some people who are mentally disturbed, have chemical imbalances. of course, some kids respond to different kinds of attention they receive (in regard to adhd) but it's not always a "kick in the ass" will solve the problem.

Noooo. I don't condone or support the use of drugs such as ritalin and the like... I agree, they just help the symptoms, never really cure the problem... but... whatever. i think i wanted to just say that there is a thing called chemical/hormonal imbalance... just ask a menopausal or preganant woman.
dimendaruff
QUOTE (Quel @ Mar 21 2006, 04:14 PM)
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:07 PM)
and my son as well...i know his behavior is because i spoil him...i hate hate hate 2 hear him cry and hes a smart kid, he knows this...and he plays me every damn time...all he has 2 do is pout that bottom lip and whatever he wants he gets  unsure.gif its something i know i need 2 nip in the bud, but its very hard..because well he's my baby...so as a parent, i see the mistakes i am making and i can only pray 2 God that i correct them b4 its 2 late...

Child Please. Dime you cool with me by way of Tc ive grown to have a luh for you BUT. You are the kind of person I would like to fuck up every now and then!! mad.gif I've seen kids act a fool, good smart kids and I want to just whoop their parents ass cause its their fault they are allowing the devil to work thru their child. Sorry. just venting.

sad.gif i know girl..believe me i really do...its just so hard...i dont like hearing my son cry...issues that i def am working on...trust...
msdms
QUOTE (Quel @ Mar 21 2006, 04:18 PM)
[/QUOTE]
Its a definite cop out. It amazes me when I see children with this supposed add/ adhd get their shit together quick fast when its something they want to do. Shit I was diagnosed with add not adhd and I knew when the hell to settle down and focus.

I dont believe in that acting out for attention shit either. Choke em

Really? how can you not??? I see adults (who are supposed to know better) act out for attention all the time!

wow.. interesting.
dimendaruff
QUOTE (msdms @ Mar 21 2006, 04:22 PM)
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:12 PM)
QUOTE (msdms @ Mar 21 2006, 04:07 PM)
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:02 PM)
QUOTE (Quel @ Mar 21 2006, 03:57 PM)
QUOTE (brooklynchicalette2 @ Mar 21 2006, 02:31 PM)
Dime- you know Ima give you a pass cause I know your history-- but you know how I feel..
choke em' -

OMG I almost choked on a fucking pretzel just now. Choke em laugh.gif I feel the same damn way.

So if there is no such thing as a bad kid just misguided parents does that mean when that child is clearly having behavioral problems its the parents fault?

depending on the age of the child..is most cases, yes it is the parents fault...lack of something...there r cases where the child is "acting out" as a cry 4 attention...then there r cases where u have a child that comes from a seemingly "perfect" home and they act out just 2 go against the masses, the rebellion type, "goths"...there is always an underlying cause 2 children having behavioral problems, and in my experiences in most cases it has been due 2 the parent(s)...

do you subscribe to the add/adhd school of thought... where no one is particularly to blame, more of a chemical imbalance some where... b/c what may be considered "bad" can be hyperactivity, attention deficit, etc. is that still the parent's "fault"?

adhd IMO is used as a cop-out diagnosis from therapists(psychiatrists) who dont wanna work and just wanna dope kids up, and parents who r too damn lazy 2 get 2 the reason behind whats going on....i find it hard 2 believe that there is a child who can not be helped thru proper guidance and support...i dont subscribe 2 chemical imbalances and druggin ppl up 4 the rest of his/her lives...

well. um. chemical imbalances are real.... just like the ones women go through every month (if they are still menstruating)

some people who are mentally disturbed, have chemical imbalances. of course, some kids respond to different kinds of attention they receive (in regard to adhd) but it's not always a "kick in the ass" will solve the problem.

Noooo. I don't condone or support the use of drugs such as ritalin and the like... I agree, they just help the symptoms, never really cure the problem... but... whatever. i think i wanted to just say that there is a thing called chemical/hormonal imbalance... just ask a menopausal or preganant woman.

hormonal and chemical imbalance r 2 different things...chemical imbalances do not last 4 a season (according 2 those that believe in that)...the hormonal changes that a woman goes thru pre and post partum r not considered chemical imbalances...
SeeLaH
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:22 PM)
QUOTE (Quel @ Mar 21 2006, 04:14 PM)
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:07 PM)
and my son as well...i know his behavior is because i spoil him...i hate hate hate 2 hear him cry and hes a smart kid, he knows this...and he plays me every damn time...all he has 2 do is pout that bottom lip and whatever he wants he gets  unsure.gif its something i know i need 2 nip in the bud, but its very hard..because well he's my baby...so as a parent, i see the mistakes i am making and i can only pray 2 God that i correct them b4 its 2 late...

Child Please. Dime you cool with me by way of Tc ive grown to have a luh for you BUT. You are the kind of person I would like to fuck up every now and then!! mad.gif I've seen kids act a fool, good smart kids and I want to just whoop their parents ass cause its their fault they are allowing the devil to work thru their child. Sorry. just venting.

sad.gif i know girl..believe me i really do...its just so hard...i dont like hearing my son cry...issues that i def am working on...trust...

I guess I'm too old school...my parents always used to say to me when I cry too much:


DO YOU WANT SOMETHING TO CRY FOR?

knowing what would come after that, I would STFU real quick! Discipline at its best is when you don't have to beat the child no more...just give them "the look" or "the question" and they remember what discipline is... wink.gif


I love my father for putting the fear of God in me... biggrin.gif
HoneyBee
QUOTE (SeeLaH @ Mar 21 2006, 04:28 PM)
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:22 PM)
QUOTE (Quel @ Mar 21 2006, 04:14 PM)
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:07 PM)
and my son as well...i know his behavior is because i spoil him...i hate hate hate 2 hear him cry and hes a smart kid, he knows this...and he plays me every damn time...all he has 2 do is pout that bottom lip and whatever he wants he gets  unsure.gif its something i know i need 2 nip in the bud, but its very hard..because well he's my baby...so as a parent, i see the mistakes i am making and i can only pray 2 God that i correct them b4 its 2 late...

Child Please. Dime you cool with me by way of Tc ive grown to have a luh for you BUT. You are the kind of person I would like to fuck up every now and then!! mad.gif I've seen kids act a fool, good smart kids and I want to just whoop their parents ass cause its their fault they are allowing the devil to work thru their child. Sorry. just venting.

sad.gif i know girl..believe me i really do...its just so hard...i dont like hearing my son cry...issues that i def am working on...trust...

I guess I'm too old school...my parents always used to say to me when I cry too much:


DO YOU WANT SOMETHING TO CRY FOR?

knowing what would come after that, I would STFU real quick! Discipline at its best is when you don't have to beat the child no more...just give them "the look" or "the question" and they remember what discipline is
... wink.gif


I love my father for putting the fear of God in me... biggrin.gif

With a quickness... biggrin.gif
Some tough talk and a tough hand!! j/ks...sort of...
HoneyBee
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:19 PM)
QUOTE (HoneyBee @ Mar 21 2006, 04:13 PM)
hmmmm, I don't practically care for Addriol and Ritalin for kids...
I just seen a study on Good Morning America and the effects of Ritalin once you stop using the drug.  They are prescribing Ritalin for Adults calling it ADD.  They asked a lady, “If you could add 10 more years to your life or quit taking Ritalin which would you choose?”  The lady said, “I will take the Ritalin and never stop”
Some tough talk is what they need and a "good act" right hand on the fanny!!

ritalin is the prescription crack 4 real sad.gif highly addictive...

C/s...the program I seen gave me a different view of that drug...smh...
SeeLaH
QUOTE (HoneyBee @ Mar 21 2006, 04:29 PM)
QUOTE (SeeLaH @ Mar 21 2006, 04:28 PM)
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:22 PM)
QUOTE (Quel @ Mar 21 2006, 04:14 PM)
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:07 PM)
and my son as well...i know his behavior is because i spoil him...i hate hate hate 2 hear him cry and hes a smart kid, he knows this...and he plays me every damn time...all he has 2 do is pout that bottom lip and whatever he wants he gets  unsure.gif its something i know i need 2 nip in the bud, but its very hard..because well he's my baby...so as a parent, i see the mistakes i am making and i can only pray 2 God that i correct them b4 its 2 late...

Child Please. Dime you cool with me by way of Tc ive grown to have a luh for you BUT. You are the kind of person I would like to fuck up every now and then!! mad.gif I've seen kids act a fool, good smart kids and I want to just whoop their parents ass cause its their fault they are allowing the devil to work thru their child. Sorry. just venting.

sad.gif i know girl..believe me i really do...its just so hard...i dont like hearing my son cry...issues that i def am working on...trust...

I guess I'm too old school...my parents always used to say to me when I cry too much:


DO YOU WANT SOMETHING TO CRY FOR?

knowing what would come after that, I would STFU real quick! Discipline at its best is when you don't have to beat the child no more...just give them "the look" or "the question" and they remember what discipline is
... wink.gif


I love my father for putting the fear of God in me... biggrin.gif

With a quickness... biggrin.gif
Some tough talk and a tough hand!! j/ks...sort of...

HARD EARS DON'T HEAR, DEM MUST FEEL!!


I was raised on this too....my children will be raised on this as well. It's not abuse...it's good discipline. wink.gif
SashaThumper
ya'll ever got your ass whipped, then whipped some more cuz you cry about it? laugh.gif i can't front, i can't wait to do that to my kids unsure.gif
dimendaruff
QUOTE (SeeLaH @ Mar 21 2006, 04:31 PM)
QUOTE (HoneyBee @ Mar 21 2006, 04:29 PM)
QUOTE (SeeLaH @ Mar 21 2006, 04:28 PM)
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:22 PM)
QUOTE (Quel @ Mar 21 2006, 04:14 PM)
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:07 PM)
and my son as well...i know his behavior is because i spoil him...i hate hate hate 2 hear him cry and hes a smart kid, he knows this...and he plays me every damn time...all he has 2 do is pout that bottom lip and whatever he wants he gets  unsure.gif its something i know i need 2 nip in the bud, but its very hard..because well he's my baby...so as a parent, i see the mistakes i am making and i can only pray 2 God that i correct them b4 its 2 late...

Child Please. Dime you cool with me by way of Tc ive grown to have a luh for you BUT. You are the kind of person I would like to fuck up every now and then!! mad.gif I've seen kids act a fool, good smart kids and I want to just whoop their parents ass cause its their fault they are allowing the devil to work thru their child. Sorry. just venting.

sad.gif i know girl..believe me i really do...its just so hard...i dont like hearing my son cry...issues that i def am working on...trust...

I guess I'm too old school...my parents always used to say to me when I cry too much:


DO YOU WANT SOMETHING TO CRY FOR?

knowing what would come after that, I would STFU real quick! Discipline at its best is when you don't have to beat the child no more...just give them "the look" or "the question" and they remember what discipline is
... wink.gif


I love my father for putting the fear of God in me... biggrin.gif

With a quickness... biggrin.gif
Some tough talk and a tough hand!! j/ks...sort of...

HARD EARS DON'T HEAR, DEM MUST FEEL!!


I was raised on this too....my children will be raised on this as well. It's not abuse...it's good discipline. wink.gif

like i said ya'll 2 each its own...i wasnt disciplined as a child, it was beyond discipline...and everytime i even think about laying a hand on my son i see that...so 4 me, that doesnt work...

edit: got mad luv and respect 4 ya'll but on the real, i said a lot of shit that went out the door when i actually became a mother...just like when i was younger u couldnt tell me i would grow up and be cooking 4 no damn man rolleyes.gif laugh.gif ..but things and views change ya'll...
Quel
QUOTE (msdms @ Mar 21 2006, 04:24 PM)
[QUOTE=Quel,Mar 21 2006, 04:18 PM] [/QUOTE]
Its a definite cop out. It amazes me when I see children with this supposed add/ adhd get their shit together quick fast when its something they want to do. Shit I was diagnosed with add not adhd and I knew when the hell to settle down and focus.

I dont believe in that acting out for attention shit either. Choke em [/QUOTE]
Really? how can you not??? I see adults (who are supposed to know better) act out for attention all the time!

wow.. interesting.

I hate it when they say their just looking for attention. Thats such an open ended statement for a parent who is " MISGUIDED" Those parents automatically want to run and take their children to chucky cheese to spend QT. That doesnt help the issues.


Attention from who? Kids who act up in school are looking for attention from the other kids. Thats what I think. Kids who act up in stores are showing their ass for public attention. But lets not make that statement one for a parent to feel guilt.

Shit you want attention that bad Imma make sure I attend to your ass with a good old fashioned ass whip'n and some isolated thinking space.
msdms
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:27 PM)
QUOTE

hormonal and chemical imbalance r 2 different things...chemical imbalances do not last 4 a season (according 2 those that believe in that)...the hormonal changes that a woman goes thru pre and post partum r not considered chemical imbalances...



You are right, they are not one in the same.... pre & post partum aren't chemical, they are hormonal, but can def. be due to the chemical changes in the body, amongst other things. can't rule it out.

but chemical imbalances do affect the hormones... so, i.e. if the brain isn't producing enough seratonin it could lead to depression, which can lead a one to "act out", not participate, become withdrawn, etc.

and, the chemical imbalance can last for a season or longer... depending upon how it's treated. some are prescribed vitamins to increase a particular chemical deficiency, or some other drug.

Monah Lisa
QUOTE
Discipline at its best is when you don't have to beat the child no more...just give them "the look" or "the question" and they remember what discipline is... 


My point a couple points ago
I think I know what Irie was talking about but I'll still listen in wink.gif
SeeLaH
QUOTE (2 cents from the D @ Mar 21 2006, 04:40 PM)
QUOTE
Discipline at its best is when you don't have to beat the child no more...just give them "the look" or "the question" and they remember what discipline is... 


My point a couple points ago
I think I know what Irie was talking about but I'll still listen in wink.gif

sorry sad.gif
dimendaruff
QUOTE (Quel @ Mar 21 2006, 04:38 PM)
[QUOTE=msdms,Mar 21 2006, 04:24 PM] [QUOTE=Quel,Mar 21 2006, 04:18 PM] [/QUOTE]
Its a definite cop out. It amazes me when I see children with this supposed add/ adhd get their shit together quick fast when its something they want to do. Shit I was diagnosed with add not adhd and I knew when the hell to settle down and focus.

I dont believe in that acting out for attention shit either. Choke em [/QUOTE]
Really? how can you not??? I see adults (who are supposed to know better) act out for attention all the time!

wow.. interesting. [/QUOTE]
I hate it when they say their just looking for attention. Thats such an open ended statement for a parent who is " MISGUIDED" Those parents automatically want to run and take their children to chucky cheese to spend QT. That doesnt help the issues.


Attention from who? Kids who act up in school are looking for attention from the other kids. Thats what I think. Kids who act up in stores are showing their ass for public attention. But lets not make that statement one for a parent to feel guilt.

Shit you want attention that bad Imma make sure I attend to your ass with a good old fashioned ass whip'n and some isolated thinking space.

when kids want attention, they dont care if its positive or negative..which is sad...cuz sometimes it takes negative behavior 4 them 2 get his/her parents attention...

what my son does at this age isnt a cry 4 attention, its because when he cries i give in...thats my fault tho unsure.gif
Quel
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:35 PM)
QUOTE (SeeLaH @ Mar 21 2006, 04:31 PM)
QUOTE (HoneyBee @ Mar 21 2006, 04:29 PM)
QUOTE (SeeLaH @ Mar 21 2006, 04:28 PM)
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:22 PM)
QUOTE (Quel @ Mar 21 2006, 04:14 PM)
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:07 PM)
and my son as well...i know his behavior is because i spoil him...i hate hate hate 2 hear him cry and hes a smart kid, he knows this...and he plays me every damn time...all he has 2 do is pout that bottom lip and whatever he wants he gets  unsure.gif its something i know i need 2 nip in the bud, but its very hard..because well he's my baby...so as a parent, i see the mistakes i am making and i can only pray 2 God that i correct them b4 its 2 late...

Child Please. Dime you cool with me by way of Tc ive grown to have a luh for you BUT. You are the kind of person I would like to fuck up every now and then!! mad.gif I've seen kids act a fool, good smart kids and I want to just whoop their parents ass cause its their fault they are allowing the devil to work thru their child. Sorry. just venting.

sad.gif i know girl..believe me i really do...its just so hard...i dont like hearing my son cry...issues that i def am working on...trust...

I guess I'm too old school...my parents always used to say to me when I cry too much:


DO YOU WANT SOMETHING TO CRY FOR?

knowing what would come after that, I would STFU real quick! Discipline at its best is when you don't have to beat the child no more...just give them "the look" or "the question" and they remember what discipline is
... wink.gif


I love my father for putting the fear of God in me... biggrin.gif

With a quickness... biggrin.gif
Some tough talk and a tough hand!! j/ks...sort of...

HARD EARS DON'T HEAR, DEM MUST FEEL!!


I was raised on this too....my children will be raised on this as well. It's not abuse...it's good discipline. wink.gif

like i said ya'll 2 each its own...i wasnt disciplined as a child, it was beyond discipline...and everytime i even think about laying a hand on my son i see that...so 4 me, that doesnt work...

edit: got mad luv and respect 4 ya'll but on the real, i said a lot of shit that went out the door when i actually became a mother...just like when i was younger u couldnt tell me i would grow up and be cooking 4 no damn man rolleyes.gif laugh.gif ..but things and views change ya'll...

Dime Im in the same boat. I was so abused! I mean things that come on the 10 o'clock news but that is what taught me the difference between abuse and good discipline. When I moved dow n south and was taken away from my mother,was showed discipline by a sanctified god fearing baptist. She didnt think twice about fucking me up and punishing me. And I love her for it. I clearly understood the difference.

msdms
QUOTE (Quel @ Mar 21 2006, 04:38 PM)
[QUOTE=msdms,Mar 21 2006, 04:24 PM] [QUOTE=Quel,Mar 21 2006, 04:18 PM] [/QUOTE]
Its a definite cop out. It amazes me when I see children with this supposed add/ adhd get their shit together quick fast when its something they want to do. Shit I was diagnosed with add not adhd and I knew when the hell to settle down and focus.

I dont believe in that acting out for attention shit either. Choke em [/QUOTE]
Really? how can you not??? I see adults (who are supposed to know better) act out for attention all the time!

wow.. interesting. [/QUOTE]
I hate it when they say their just looking for attention. Thats such an open ended statement for a parent who is " MISGUIDED" Those parents automatically want to run and take their children to chucky cheese to spend QT. That doesnt help the issues.


Attention from who? Kids who act up in school are looking for attention from the other kids. Thats what I think. Kids who act up in stores are showing their ass for public attention. But lets not make that statement one for a parent to feel guilt.

Shit you want attention that bad Imma make sure I attend to your ass with a good old fashioned ass whip'n and some isolated thinking space.

good topic. great discourse.

Ok, I dont' think all kids want attention from other kids... not to say that some don't... but some may want attention from the teacher... some may want some extra validation because they are not getting any from home (from the adults in the household & while we understand wanting to fit in w/kids... kids love attention from adults! they almost idolize them). sometimes when a new sibling in brought into the house, the amount of attention an child gets changes (decreases) and the kids misbehaves in shcool, or wherever else they spend a lot of their time.

I'm all down for poppin', spankin' - no out and out abuse - but I do think there are reasons for the actions and not just because they are being bad. Kids aren't as developed (mentally) to reason and clearly act responsible all the time.
dimendaruff
QUOTE (msdms @ Mar 21 2006, 04:39 PM)
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:27 PM)
QUOTE

hormonal and chemical imbalance r 2 different things...chemical imbalances do not last 4 a season (according 2 those that believe in that)...the hormonal changes that a woman goes thru pre and post partum r not considered chemical imbalances...



You are right, they are not one in the same.... pre & post partum aren't chemical, they are hormonal, but can def. be due to the chemical changes in the body, amongst other things. can't rule it out.

but chemical imbalances do affect the hormones... so, i.e. if the brain isn't producing enough seratonin it could lead to depression, which can lead a one to "act out", not participate, become withdrawn, etc.

and, the chemical imbalance can last for a season or longer... depending upon how it's treated. some are prescribed vitamins to increase a particular chemical deficiency, or some other drug.

i just think that most times drugs r prescribed as a cop-out..no one wants 2 work on things anymore, they want an easy fix..i wont deny that there r disorder of the brain and what have u...but the mind is the most powerful entity in the human body, IMO it has the ability 2 cure all things, with guidance, thats including "chemical" disorders, such as depression...
HoneyBee
QUOTE (Quel @ Mar 21 2006, 04:44 PM)
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:35 PM)
QUOTE (SeeLaH @ Mar 21 2006, 04:31 PM)
QUOTE (HoneyBee @ Mar 21 2006, 04:29 PM)
QUOTE (SeeLaH @ Mar 21 2006, 04:28 PM)
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:22 PM)
QUOTE (Quel @ Mar 21 2006, 04:14 PM)
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:07 PM)
and my son as well...i know his behavior is because i spoil him...i hate hate hate 2 hear him cry and hes a smart kid, he knows this...and he plays me every damn time...all he has 2 do is pout that bottom lip and whatever he wants he gets  unsure.gif its something i know i need 2 nip in the bud, but its very hard..because well he's my baby...so as a parent, i see the mistakes i am making and i can only pray 2 God that i correct them b4 its 2 late...

Child Please. Dime you cool with me by way of Tc ive grown to have a luh for you BUT. You are the kind of person I would like to fuck up every now and then!! mad.gif I've seen kids act a fool, good smart kids and I want to just whoop their parents ass cause its their fault they are allowing the devil to work thru their child. Sorry. just venting.

sad.gif i know girl..believe me i really do...its just so hard...i dont like hearing my son cry...issues that i def am working on...trust...

I guess I'm too old school...my parents always used to say to me when I cry too much:


DO YOU WANT SOMETHING TO CRY FOR?

knowing what would come after that, I would STFU real quick! Discipline at its best is when you don't have to beat the child no more...just give them "the look" or "the question" and they remember what discipline is
... wink.gif


I love my father for putting the fear of God in me... biggrin.gif

With a quickness... biggrin.gif
Some tough talk and a tough hand!! j/ks...sort of...

HARD EARS DON'T HEAR, DEM MUST FEEL!!


I was raised on this too....my children will be raised on this as well. It's not abuse...it's good discipline. wink.gif

like i said ya'll 2 each its own...i wasnt disciplined as a child, it was beyond discipline...and everytime i even think about laying a hand on my son i see that...so 4 me, that doesnt work...

edit: got mad luv and respect 4 ya'll but on the real, i said a lot of shit that went out the door when i actually became a mother...just like when i was younger u couldnt tell me i would grow up and be cooking 4 no damn man rolleyes.gif laugh.gif ..but things and views change ya'll...

Dime Im in the same boat. I was so abused! I mean things that come on the 10 o'clock news but that is what taught me the difference between abuse and good discipline. When I moved dow n south and was taken away from my mother,was showed discipline by a sanctified god fearing baptist. She didnt think twice about fucking me up and punishing me. And I love her for it. I clearly understood the difference.

Quel, Dime, and Sheelah what about affection.
Some kids dont receive hugs and I love you's on a daily basis from their parents? Does affection play a huge role? Could that be a reason kids act out for attention...I only ask bc Im taking notes from for the future!
dimendaruff
QUOTE (Quel @ Mar 21 2006, 04:44 PM)
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:35 PM)
QUOTE (SeeLaH @ Mar 21 2006, 04:31 PM)
QUOTE (HoneyBee @ Mar 21 2006, 04:29 PM)
QUOTE (SeeLaH @ Mar 21 2006, 04:28 PM)
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:22 PM)
QUOTE (Quel @ Mar 21 2006, 04:14 PM)
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:07 PM)
and my son as well...i know his behavior is because i spoil him...i hate hate hate 2 hear him cry and hes a smart kid, he knows this...and he plays me every damn time...all he has 2 do is pout that bottom lip and whatever he wants he gets  unsure.gif its something i know i need 2 nip in the bud, but its very hard..because well he's my baby...so as a parent, i see the mistakes i am making and i can only pray 2 God that i correct them b4 its 2 late...

Child Please. Dime you cool with me by way of Tc ive grown to have a luh for you BUT. You are the kind of person I would like to fuck up every now and then!! mad.gif I've seen kids act a fool, good smart kids and I want to just whoop their parents ass cause its their fault they are allowing the devil to work thru their child. Sorry. just venting.

sad.gif i know girl..believe me i really do...its just so hard...i dont like hearing my son cry...issues that i def am working on...trust...

I guess I'm too old school...my parents always used to say to me when I cry too much:


DO YOU WANT SOMETHING TO CRY FOR?

knowing what would come after that, I would STFU real quick! Discipline at its best is when you don't have to beat the child no more...just give them "the look" or "the question" and they remember what discipline is
... wink.gif


I love my father for putting the fear of God in me... biggrin.gif

With a quickness... biggrin.gif
Some tough talk and a tough hand!! j/ks...sort of...

HARD EARS DON'T HEAR, DEM MUST FEEL!!


I was raised on this too....my children will be raised on this as well. It's not abuse...it's good discipline. wink.gif

like i said ya'll 2 each its own...i wasnt disciplined as a child, it was beyond discipline...and everytime i even think about laying a hand on my son i see that...so 4 me, that doesnt work...

edit: got mad luv and respect 4 ya'll but on the real, i said a lot of shit that went out the door when i actually became a mother...just like when i was younger u couldnt tell me i would grow up and be cooking 4 no damn man rolleyes.gif laugh.gif ..but things and views change ya'll...

Dime Im in the same boat. I was so abused! I mean things that come on the 10 o'clock news but that is what taught me the difference between abuse and good discipline. When I moved dow n south and was taken away from my mother,was showed discipline by a sanctified god fearing baptist. She didnt think twice about fucking me up and punishing me. And I love her for it. I clearly understood the difference.

*cyber hugs* 2 u quel...im sorry that u had 2 endure abuse as a child...we kind of have similar stories, when i met my adopted family they showed me love and discipline, but i wasnt physically disciplined...so learning that has taught me that its def possible 2 discipline kids without hitting them and still be respected...
Quel
I got to be me cant apologize for being Raw-quel but this seems like an ep of the blind leading the blind.

I know this woman (she was the bomb had prescripts for errrrthang rolleyes.gif ) anyway she was a child psyciatrist (sp?) and her son had to be one of the baddest motherfuckers I've ever been around in my life. I watched how she was raising him and I would tell her the day they lock him up im gonna request the judge put your ass under his cell. Its her fault. This kid would spit at a teacher she would look at him tell him to apologize tell him how wrong he was then drive his fat ass to get Mcdonalds, stop off at the bootleg man cause he needs to get the new B5 cd. Buy him a game for his game boy then stop by my crib so her son can play before bedtime but threaten that he cant play with the goodies she just bought that day cause he's grounded. ohmy.gif ph34r.gif mad.gif I just shake my head. Couldnt hang with her because I took that situation too personally and nobody wants to hear that they're ruining their kid and one thing I cant stand is stupidity.

dimendaruff
QUOTE (HoneyBee @ Mar 21 2006, 04:49 PM)
QUOTE (Quel @ Mar 21 2006, 04:44 PM)
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:35 PM)
QUOTE (SeeLaH @ Mar 21 2006, 04:31 PM)
QUOTE (HoneyBee @ Mar 21 2006, 04:29 PM)
QUOTE (SeeLaH @ Mar 21 2006, 04:28 PM)
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:22 PM)
QUOTE (Quel @ Mar 21 2006, 04:14 PM)
QUOTE (dimendaruff @ Mar 21 2006, 04:07 PM)
and my son as well...i know his behavior is because i spoil him...i hate hate hate 2 hear him cry and hes a smart kid, he knows this...and he plays me every damn time...all he has 2 do is pout that bottom lip and whatever he wants he gets  unsure.gif its something i know i need 2 nip in the bud, but its very hard..because well he's my baby...so as a parent, i see the mistakes i am making and i can only pray 2 God that i correct them b4 its 2 late...

Child Please. Dime you cool with me by way of Tc ive grown to have a luh for you BUT. You are the kind of person I would like to fuck up every now and then!! mad.gif I've seen kids act a fool, good smart kids and I want to just whoop their parents ass cause its their fault they are allowing the devil to work thru their child. Sorry. just venting.

sad.gif i know girl..believe me i really do...its just so hard...i dont like hearing my son cry...issues that i def am working on...trust...

I guess I'm too old school...my parents always used to say to me when I cry too much:


DO YOU WANT SOMETHING TO CRY FOR?

knowing what would come after that, I would STFU real quick! Discipline at its best is when you don't have to beat the child no more...just give them "the look" or "the question" and they remember what discipline is
... wink.gif


I love my father for putting the fear of God in me... biggrin.gif

With a quickness... biggrin.gif
Some tough talk and a tough hand!! j/ks...sort of...

HARD EARS DON'T HEAR, DEM MUST FEEL!!


I was raised on this too....my children will be raised on this as well. It's not abuse...it's good discipline. wink.gif

like i said ya'll 2 each its own...i wasnt disciplined as a child, it was beyond discipline...and everytime i even think about laying a hand on my son i see that...so 4 me, that doesnt work...

edit: got mad luv and respect 4 ya'll but on the real, i said a lot of shit that went out the door when i actually became a mother...just like when i was younger u couldnt tell me i would grow up and be cooking 4 no damn man rolleyes.gif laugh.gif ..but things and views change ya'll...

Dime Im in the same boat. I was so abused! I mean things that come on the 10 o'clock news but that is what taught me the difference between abuse and good discipline. When I moved dow n south and was taken away from my mother,was showed discipline by a sanctified god fearing baptist. She didnt think twice about fucking me up and punishing me. And I love her for it. I clearly understood the difference.

Quel, Dime, and Sheelah what about affection.
Some kids dont receive hugs and I love you's on a daily basis from their parents? Does affection play a huge role? Could that be a reason kids act out for attention...I only ask bc Im taking notes from for the future!

girl affection plays a major role in good parenting....what u dont teach ur child, they will go out and seek elsewhere...ur child cant learn 2 love unless u teach them...they cant know 2 be compassionate about things unless theyre taught...i dont think 1 single day has gone by without me kissing my sons face and telling him i love him..even after he has worked my last nerve...the problem is a lot of parents dont know how 2 be affectionate, and as i said sometimes its hard 2 teach what u urself have not learned....thank god 4 my adopted family!!
dimendaruff
QUOTE (Quel @ Mar 21 2006, 04:54 PM)
I got to be me cant apologize for being Raw-quel but this seems like an ep of the blind leading the blind.

I know this woman (she was the bomb had prescripts for errrrthang rolleyes.gif ) anyway she was a child psyciatrist (sp?) and her son had to be one of the baddest motherfuckers I've ever been around in my life. I watched how she was raising him and I would tell her the day they lock him up im gonna request the judge put your ass under his cell. Its her fault. This kid would spit at a teacher she would look at him tell him to apologize tell him how wrong he was then drive his fat ass to get Mcdonalds, stop off at the bootleg man cause he needs to get the new B5 cd. Buy him a game for his game boy then stop by my crib so her son can play before bedtime but threaten that he cant play with the goodies she just bought that day cause he's grounded. ohmy.gif ph34r.gif mad.gif I just shake my head. Couldnt hang with her because I took that situation too personally and nobody wants to hear that they're ruining their kid and one thing I cant stand is stupidity.

funny..im a child psychologist...most of my collegues agree when i say "sometimes u have so much insight into the lives of others, and r blinded 2 things in ur own life"...

the thing with me tho is i think im accepting a lot from my son now because he still learning how 2 construct sentences and 2 get his point across...and hes impatient, and gets frustrated when we dont get it..i take this into consideration a lot when i think about disciplining him....but wow, spitting on ur teacher...i pray 2 God that i am not raising one of "those" kids...*sigh*
acevac
QUOTE (SashaThumper @ Mar 21 2006, 04:35 PM)
ya'll ever got your ass whipped, then whipped some more cuz you cry about it? laugh.gif i can't front, i can't wait to do that to my kids unsure.gif

yup....im ready to beat some ass rolleyes.gif
ELOCIN
QUOTE (Quel @ Mar 21 2006, 04:54 PM)
I got to be me cant apologize for being Raw-quel but this seems like an ep of the blind leading the blind.

I know this woman (she was the bomb had prescripts for errrrthang rolleyes.gif ) anyway she was a child psyciatrist (sp?) and her son had to be one of the baddest motherfuckers I've ever been around in my life. I watched how she was raising him and I would tell her the day they lock him up im gonna request the judge put your ass under his cell. Its her fault. This kid would spit at a teacher she would look at him tell him to apologize tell him how wrong he was then drive his fat ass to get Mcdonalds, stop off at the bootleg man cause he needs to get the new B5 cd. Buy him a game for his game boy then stop by my crib so her son can play before bedtime but threaten that he cant play with the goodies she just bought that day cause he's grounded. ohmy.gif ph34r.gif mad.gif I just shake my head. Couldnt hang with her because I took that situation too personally and nobody wants to hear that they're ruining their kid and one thing I cant stand is stupidity.

I totally have those tendencies (no where near that extreme) and it's probably the SOLE reason for my sons behaviour problems in school. To say he's a class clown/has adhd or anything else doesn't address the real issue that I'm to blame! I feel if I give my child all he could possibly want that he'd reason out losing all he's given because of his behavior and act right. But I'm slowly starting to see...that as children they don't reason like that and now he feels entitled to the extras he has.

Which means he's offically spoiled....straight up no chaser!!!!

Quel's right! There I said it. dry.gif
Quel
BTW this same child would stay over my house (Thank God my child isnt easily influenced) and he was straight as a pin. I never laid a hand on him he just knew I didnt play that. This kid and so many other little bad ass mofo's straighten up with the quickness under me and for some reason become noraml civilized loving children. Kids that would never kiss their mothers would give me love'n all the time. F unny how the kids would start to act up as soon as the momma comes around. I've noticed the mothers of these kids play dumb def and blind. They'll talk over the child, make make-shift playground areas so the kids doesnt break up shit. I look at the kid once and its the huh.gif what? OK Quel.

Some kids need that X-tra Tough Love. When its done with love and not out of anger the child will know. TRUST.
AprilRenae
Trust me I hate to hear my kids cry more than anything in the world but sometimes you just have to put your foot down. If I've told my son more than two times to do something and he hasn't done it then there are consequences. Same with my daughter, she's 11 and there's no reason in the world why I should have to tell her anything more than once. But I thank my lucky stars that my children don't have emotional or psychological problems. I think sometimes the children are really mentally unbalanced but most of the time the parents have really screwed up by not disciplining their children or showing that there are consequences to their actions.
dimendaruff
QUOTE (Quel @ Mar 21 2006, 05:05 PM)
BTW this same child would stay over my house (Thank God my child isnt easily influenced) and he was straight as a pin. I never laid a hand on him he just knew I didnt play that. This kid and so many other little bad ass mofo's straighten up with the quickness under me and for some reason become noraml civilized loving children. Kids that would never kiss their mothers would give me love'n all the time. F unny how the kids would start to act up as soon as the momma comes around. I've noticed the mothers of these kids play dumb def and blind. They'll talk over the child, make make-shift playground areas so the kids doesnt break up shit. I look at the kid once and its the huh.gif what? OK Quel.

Some kids need that X-tra Tough Love. When its done with love and not out of anger the child will know. TRUST.

my son is like that..omg hes a totally different child when hes not around me...when he goes and stays with my mother or my sisters hes an angel....he totally listens and they love keeping him..but omg once im around 4get it...but im glad that he knows how 2 act when hes out tho...i would hate 4 someone 2 not want my child around...
dimendaruff
QUOTE (AprilRenae @ Mar 21 2006, 05:08 PM)
Trust me I hate to hear my kids cry more than anything in the world but sometimes you just have to put your foot down. If I've told my son more than two times to do something and he hasn't done it then there are consequences. Same with my daughter, she's 11 and there's no reason in the world why I should have to tell her anything more than once. But I thank my lucky stars that my children don't have emotional or psychological problems. I think sometimes the children are really mentally unbalanced but most of the time the parents have really screwed up by not disciplining their children or showing that there are consequences to their actions.

but at 2 years old? its different i think when theyre older...they grasp a lot more concepts, like right and wrong....they understand about making good and bad choices...a 2 year old doesnt have that concept yet....i mean, how much can u hit a 2 year old tho?....theyre so tiny...i just think timeout is more beneficial at this age...and i have 2 take it a day at a time..i hope the day will never come when i have 2 "beat my son's ass" *shutters at the thought*

tc got deep 2day ya'll...wow...gotta go cook...im out!
Quel
QUOTE (AprilRenae @ Mar 21 2006, 05:08 PM)
Trust me I hate to hear my kids cry more than anything in the world but sometimes you just have to put your foot down. If I've told my son more than two times to do something and he hasn't done it then there are consequences. Same with my daughter, she's 11 and there's no reason in the world why I should have to tell her anything more than once. But I thank my lucky stars that my children don't have emotional or psychological problems. I think sometimes the children are really mentally unbalanced but most of the time the parents have really screwed up by not disciplining their children or showing that there are consequences to their actions.

Amen!!!

Oh and as far as Affection. I am one of the most affectionate moms their is too. Its balanced. part of balancing affection, love and care with discpline is doing it all with love. Kiss em with love hug em with love tell em you love em whoop their ass with their future in mind and with all the love you have.


ya'll see when martin was talking bout threatening his newborn while its still on its way out the coochie. I laughed my ass off. But damn If I wasnt on it like that.

You cant wait for your child to build up their own will p ower, their own way of thinking you got to break their will from the be-getty-yup!! I was on my son 2 seconds before he even thought about doing something. He never got the chance to build up that stubborn will power. That way even when your not there their first thoughts before doing something they're not supposed to do theres this automatic alert that goes off in their heads.
AprilRenae
My son is 4 going on 5. Don't under estimate what a 2 year old understands. A 2 year old knows what "No" means. I'm not saying that i whack my kids repeatedly, but a swift hand to the behind is not going to emotionally scar them for life.
acevac
even when you dont have to move anything MOVING SUCKS mad.gif
tarheelnny
If my future hubby don't beat kids right...then we'll play TAG TEAM


yep...i ain't talking about abuse...but my kids will RECOGNIZE!

kids don't fear anyone these days so they go BUCK WILD.
my parents when to chuuuuuuuuuuch on my blk tail ( i thank them to this day)





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