"Average Cat" - Beanie Sigel (Jay-Z Diss), What yall think about this? Options

[PrinceMarcel]

I'm bored. Lemme keep going lol.

Jay never STOLE money. Never belittled anyone in his camp until after they showed disloyalty (I know ya big on that PM lol).

yeah, im bored too. but im not gonna go in.
If you're not big on loyalty...then I don't know what to tell you but I forgot...you be outcheaaaa...lol

But paying a group, thats singed to your label, Grammy Nominated, who had a top #1 single and whose album peaked at #3 on the charts, $1200.00 a show TO SPLIT is not belittling?...then I don't know what is. There has been alot of suspect activity about Jay going in the business but hush hush and I guess when someone real close to him exposes it, they're the bad guys...let the fans tell it, its hating and jealousy and its ALL about money... its not just coincidental that Calvin Klein, Jaz-O, Dehaven and Beans are saying these things..im not saying that money is not a factor but there is something deeper.. i wonder what Biggs thinks about all this?

I hope those "2, maybe 3" people on here/TC , that knows...decide to break their silence and shed some light but trust me...I more then understand if they don't.

Point is, Jay is a SNAKE just like them "Wall street CEOs" he models himself after...but of course thats how life works.. we can go back and forth on this subject all day but if you don't see or just don't want to see it because you're blinded by his "God like"status, again, i don't know what to tell you...plain and simple..

This post has been edited by PrinceMarcel: Nov 4 2009, 06:59 PM

[PrinceMarcel]

Beanie Sigel & 50 Cent Live on the Radio (Power 99)

[bpolite]

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Beanie Sigel & 50 Cent Live on the Radio (Power 99)

I'm surprised they let him up there after what he allegedly did to a radio dj who dared to dis him on Philly radio station. SMH

[Angeljami]

Beans is looking a lot like Young Buck right now.

Funny how 50 always ends up in the middle of highly publicized break ups in hip-hop. He bout to have Beans looking like a pawn. This dude is a chess player for real. I understand that Beans is mad but are these dudes stupid? 50 isn’t interested in your problems. He uses people to make his rivals look bad. See J-Hood, Remy Ma, Ross babymama, Jim Jones & Juelz, and the list goes on. Once 50 gets you to publicly expose your former friends, he drops you. and honestly why should he be bothered with you? If you’re willing to turn on someone in public, why would he sign you to his camp when you have shown how disloyal you really are. Messing with 50 isnt gonna get Beans anywhere. Look at how this nigga just jumps in the middle of the interviews like uh huh...yeah...

And what do you know....50 album is about to drop. Entertainment indeed and I'm all for it. It is what it is. see my sig lol.

But yeah Jay-Z is too smart for this, TRUST. Notice how he’s not even talking outside that breif statement. Best believe it will stay like this for years and honestly I would do the same lol.

Exactly...

I knew 50 was behind this shit. Beans is stupid and 50 is pussy... Pathetic... A lot of people use the word loosely but this is the best example of "hatin" that I have ever seen.

50 wants to be Jay. He was dying to be on Oprah and Jay did it...

I used to like 50 but he is the most pathetic, sorry excuse for a man that I've seen. I don't think this has anything to do with Beans.

SMFH...

This post has been edited by Angeljami: Nov 4 2009, 11:48 PM

[Alfredo_fedicini]

*The most used Hip Hop line for 2009*...At the end of the day...lol..

I agree with Cole and Sneeks said this is all entertainment. I like Beans and I'm a huge fan of Jay.. I just like to look at both sides of the story!

Beanie Sigel I hope with some 50 money can put out some good music..that's all I care about!

Hopefully some tracks come out from all of this..and they resolve it and that's about it..

Business is Business and I respect that but friendship means alot to me..so I know I wouldn't mix the both..

It is what it is..just have to make sure you have your best intrest at heart!..

No matter what ya'll tell me..I am still going to believe that Beans got taken advantage of..But that's his fault and no one else's..He wasn't playing
the game smart..He let his emotions get the best of him...

Gotta be able to swim with the sharks!!


Dame Dash on the situation!

MTV Shows

This post has been edited by Alfredo_fedicini: Nov 5 2009, 12:33 PM

[?uestion]

"it was all good just a week ago"

[LARRY LOVE]

Yo, PM... have you ever had any one-to-one first hand dealings with Jay? Not being funny, just asking because of how incensed you are about him.

[nero180]

Dame Dash on the situation!
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the last year has clearly humbled dame dash.

[brohayz]

yeah, im bored too. but im not gonna go in.
If you're not big on loyalty...then I don't know what to tell you but I forgot...you be outcheaaaa...lol

But paying a group, thats singed to your label, Grammy Nominated, who had a top #1 single and whose album peaked at #3 on the charts, $1200.00 a show TO SPLIT is not belittling?...then I don't know what is. There has been alot of suspect activity about Jay going in the business but hush hush and I guess when someone real close to him exposes it, they're the bad guys...let the fans tell it, its hating and jealousy and its ALL about money... its not just coincidental that Calvin Klein, Jaz-O, Dehaven and Beans are saying these things..im not saying that money is not a factor but there is something deeper.. i wonder what Biggs thinks about all this?

I hope those "2, maybe 3" people on here/TC , that knows...decide to break their silence and shed some light but trust me...I more then understand if they don't.

Point is, Jay is a SNAKE just like them "Wall street CEOs" he models himself after...but of course thats how life works.. we can go back and forth on this subject all day but if you don't see or just don't want to see it because you're blinded by his "God like"status, again, i don't know what to tell you...plain and simple..

Prince I'm HUGE on loyalty. me pointing out you were big on it, was not to note that I'm not. Just simply pointing out that the people Jay so called snaked, didnt necessarily strike me as loyal.

How loyal is it that he's about to sign with G-unit? (or wanted to before as 50 and him are claiming). How loyal was he when he decided to roll with Dame after him and J split up? I'm not even saying that was wrong but these are BUSINESS decisions.

If someone real close to him so called exposes him, how come they can never get solid validation of bad business? If you listen, they are usually saying a whole bunch of nothing. Dehaven, Jaz-O, and Beans all have the same baseless complaints. It's not about God like status, its about objectivity.

On a personal note, I've had mentors who've taught me so much more just by watching what they do versus what they've told me. You learn so much more from a person's actions than their words. True leaders do so by example, not by just telling you what you should do. I'd say J led by example by continuosly dropping #1 albums, and creating new business ventures.

It's said that Dame was more involved in communicating the day-to-day business and was the more hands on guy with the artists at Roc-A-Fella. Well state property followed him, and it appears they got what he has. financial woes. I dont count other peoples pockets so whose to say what they have and don't have but clearly they arent happy as they've publicy discussed their issues with so called bad business. If you buy someones opinion, you buy their lifestyle. Well Dame was licking his pro keds talking bout he could never wear the same shoes twice and beans assumed 5K a month in car notes with his momma still in the hood. At what point do you say, how am I going to create an avenue to get where I need to be? Take Kanye, who followed Jay-z, and look what he was able to generate as far as marketabliity aside from his music.

As far as YG and the $1200 a show I could have a field day with that. In short if I had a #1 song and then turned around and worked for $600 a night (for 6 minutes tops might I add), all the while believing I deserved more the joke is on me. Nobody put a gun to those guys heads and told them to work for less than what they thought they were worth. You go on a national tour to perform for Jay-Z's fanbase, you need to make that work for you, not the other way around.

"show em how to move in a room full of vultures" some peeped it, some didnt. thats my humble opinion.

[nero180]

Prince I'm HUGE on loyalty. me pointing out you were big on it, was not to note that I'm not. Just simply pointing out that the people Jay so called snaked, didnt necessarily strike me as loyal.

How loyal is it that he's about to sign with G-unit? (or wanted to before as 50 and him are claiming). How loyal was he when he decided to roll with Dame after him and J split up? I'm not even saying that was wrong but these are BUSINESS decisions.

If someone real close to him so called exposes him, how come they can never get solid validation of bad business? If you listen, they are usually saying a whole bunch of nothing. Dehaven, Jaz-O, and Beans all have the same baseless complaints. It's not about God like status, its about objectivity.

On a personal note, I've had mentors who've taught me so much more just by watching what they do versus what they've told me. You learn so much more from a person's actions than their words. True leaders do so by example, not by just telling you what you should do. I'd say J led by example by continuosly dropping #1 albums, and creating new business ventures.

It's said that Dame was more involved in communicating the day-to-day business and was the more hands on guy with the artists at Roc-A-Fella. Well state property followed him, and it appears they got what he has. financial woes. I dont count other peoples pockets so whose to say what they have and don't have but clearly they arent happy as they've publicy discussed their issues with so called bad business. If you buy someones opinion, you buy their lifestyle. Well Dame was licking his pro keds talking bout he could never wear the same shoes twice and beans assumed 5K a month in car notes with his momma still in the hood. At what point do you say, how am I going to create an avenue to get where I need to be? Take Kanye, who followed Jay-z, and look what he was able to generate as far as marketabliity aside from his music.

As far as YG and the $1200 a show I could have a field day with that. In short if I had a #1 song and then turned around and worked for $600 a night (for 6 minutes tops might I add), all the while believing I deserved more the joke is on me. Nobody put a gun to those guys heads and told them to work for less than what they thought they were worth. You go on a national tour to perform for Jay-Z's fanbase, you need to make that work for you, not the other way around.

"show em how to move in a room full of vultures" some peeped it, some didnt. thats my humble opinion.

exactly.

everybody who's accused jay of being shady hasn't produced any real credible evidence of that except he got successful and they didn't.

PM-- the whole loyalty thing is not an argument for beans to make. if you're loyal to someone, you don't jump ship and go sleep directly with the enemy even if that person you were loyal to wasn't loyal to you.

Everything Beans is doing reaks of desperation and whats funny is he doesn't see that fiddy DOES NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT HIM OR JAY.

Fiddy is just playing his favorite role of puppeteer and instigator. Name any acts who crossed to fiddy and became successful. damn sure not Mobb Deep and whoever the other act was that fiddy picked up. He's not worried about their careers, he's only thinking about strengthening his strong-arm tactics and laughing at these jokers. get in line beans, you're next.

[dreadedcutiepie]

wait a minute-----so beanie should STILL be loyal to jay, even after the fact??? am i reading that correctly??

[nero180]

wait a minute-----so beanie should STILL be loyal to jay, even after the fact??? am i reading that correctly??

no not saying he should still be loyal, but let me put it this way--

you're married to someone and find out they cheat on you. and your reaction is to go sleep with their worst enemy who really isn't going to treat you any better.

how loyal could you have been in the first place then? you can't run around talking about loyalty when thats the very frist move you make....

and what makes you think this new person is going to have your best interests at heart when you were down hard with their enemy to begin with and only came to them when shit wasn't working right for you in your first situation?

[AngelaIs2Fly]

50 cents loves drama. We all know that. This is pure entertainment to him.

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer- I'm sure 50 would know a lot about this and it will show soon.

[BKLYNScribe]

no not saying he should still be loyal, but let me put it this way--

you're married to someone and find out they cheat on you. and your reaction is to go sleep with their worst enemy who really isn't going to treat you any better.

how loyal could you have been in the first place then? you can't run around talking about loyalty when thats the very frist move you make....

and what makes you think this new person is going to have your best interests at heart when you were down hard with their enemy to begin with and only came to them when shit wasn't working right for you in your first situation?

when the bond is broken, all "contracts" are null and void. do i think it's the right thing to do? no. but i don't think it's disloyal.

[HoneyBee]

Oh yes, he wants the respect and the same clout as J! aint no future in the front'n!
5:11 - 5:20MM (2nd richest)


This post has been edited by HoneyBee: Nov 5 2009, 05:25 PM

[Froglips]

Oh yes, he wants the respect and the same clout as J! aint no future in the front'n!
5:11 - 5:20MM (2nd richest)

"News anchors" kill me... he clearly was not ready to do this interview. So unprepared. SMH

This post has been edited by Froglips: Nov 5 2009, 06:21 PM

[Alfredo_fedicini]

Beans still talking!...He's still letting his emotions get the best of him..He not a business man..every one is not built for being a Business man..DAMN!

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This post has been edited by Alfredo_fedicini: Nov 5 2009, 08:34 PM

[Angeljami]

exactly.

everybody who's accused jay of being shady hasn't produced any real credible evidence of that except he got successful and they didn't.

PM-- the whole loyalty thing is not an argument for beans to make. if you're loyal to someone, you don't jump ship and go sleep directly with the enemy even if that person you were loyal to wasn't loyal to you.

Everything Beans is doing reaks of desperation and whats funny is he doesn't see that fiddy DOES NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT HIM OR JAY.

Fiddy is just playing his favorite role of puppeteer and instigator. Name any acts who crossed to fiddy and became successful. damn sure not Mobb Deep and whoever the other act was that fiddy picked up. He's not worried about their careers, he's only thinking about strengthening his strong-arm tactics and laughing at these jokers. get in line beans, you're next.

Real talk...

[Hollywood Cole]

I think the more Beans talks the more he hurts his case, but the important thing in Frogs post there is what are they playing while he's talking - that beat is a monster

[dreadedcutiepie]

i'm sorry, loyalty to the unloyal is a flawed way of thinking...in business, marriage or anything

[nero180]

Beans still talking!...He's still letting his emotions get the best of him..He not a business man..every one is not built for being a Business man..DAMN!
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see below to get an understanding of about how much Jay's thinking/worried about Beans.

[sneeks]

Beans, Beans!!!! You gotta waite until the ink dries before you get to talking, "oohhh noo beans!!! say it aint so!" lol Fif speaking in regards to beans saying he is a part of G unit.

“I had a meeting with him today,” 50 said Thursday. “First we gotta start with the music — where’s the music? Then we have to get into what it would take to bring him over to G-Unit as a record company. You can’t sign a deal in a conversation — it’s a process. We’ll see what happens.”

Fif did note that he thinks Beanie is capable lyrically and looks forward to hearing what he has in his vaults. “I would listen to what he has,” Fif explained. “His skills haven’t diminished. Nine times out of 10, he’ll have something workable already on deck. When you’re dealing with artists who have been established longer than you, it’s a process. You have to figure out exactly where they are at before you commit to being a part of those projects, because they have habits and they’ve been conditioned for something different. You have to figure out exactly what that is before you dive in.”

The Broad Street Bully isn’t the only established MC Fif is thinking about extending an invitation to. “I got artists who I’m looking at,” he said. “A few of them aren’t actively available for me to do different things with them. But I’m looking to sign new artists into the actual company.”

[K.I.M]

Beans, Beans!!!! You gotta waite until the ink dries before you get to talking, "oohhh noo beans!!! say it aint so!" lol Fif speaking in regards to beans saying he is a part of G unit.

“I had a meeting with him today,” 50 said Thursday. “First we gotta start with the music — where’s the music? Then we have to get into what it would take to bring him over to G-Unit as a record company. You can’t sign a deal in a conversation — it’s a process. We’ll see what happens.”

Fif did note that he thinks Beanie is capable lyrically and looks forward to hearing what he has in his vaults. “I would listen to what he has,” Fif explained. “His skills haven’t diminished. Nine times out of 10, he’ll have something workable already on deck. When you’re dealing with artists who have been established longer than you, it’s a process. You have to figure out exactly where they are at before you commit to being a part of those projects, because they have habits and they’ve been conditioned for something different. You have to figure out exactly what that is before you dive in.”

The Broad Street Bully isn’t the only established MC Fif is thinking about extending an invitation to. “I got artists who I’m looking at,” he said. “A few of them aren’t actively available for me to do different things with them. But I’m looking to sign new artists into the actual company.”

It seems like Beans still isn't learning the business side of industry 'friendships'.

[BKLYNScribe]

It seems like Beans still isn't learning the business side of industry 'friendships'.

basically.

[HoneyBee]

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[/quote]

K IM IN THE FIRST 5 MINUTES OF THIS VIDEO AND OFF TOP THIS NIGGA IS CRAZY

HELLLLLLLLLLLO YOU WOULD NOT HAVE ANY PROKED DEAL, NIGGAS SHOPPING YOU SCRIPTS, COPPING A BENTLY FOR YOURSELF/ABLE TO PAY THE BENTLY NOTE OR
ANY OTHER BIZ VENTURE IF IT WASNT FOR YOUR CONNECTION TO ROCAFELLA/DAME/JAY!


WTF, PLANET IS HE ON
SIT THE FUCK DOWN!! (and loylaty, you wanna talk about it. ok within the first five minutes of this vid ^^ he is shitting on dame d as well! and if you did have the connections you wouldnt
be complaining right now and would have came up without being connected to dame/jay)

see the problem is Beans is a fuckn whiner and its why he cant focus on going forward bc hes to busy complaining! *thumbs down*

“His skills haven’t diminished. Nine times out of 10, he’ll have something workable already on deck. When you’re dealing with artists who have been established longer than you, it’s a
process. You have to figure out exactly where they are at before you commit to being a part of those projects, because they have habits and they’ve been conditioned for something different.
You have to figure out exactly what that is before you dive in.”

hahha, 50 is about his paper and not letting anybody f it off! i am not mad.
side note - it would be nice to see beans on Gunit, just bc i know he would bring the pain lyrically to Rick Ross/def jam J...its all perfect timing!!

This post has been edited by HoneyBee: Nov 6 2009, 11:51 AM

[Alfredo_fedicini]

see below to get an understanding of about how much Jay's thinking/worried about Beans.

..I hear you talkin'...Jay-z "Already Home"..so to say..but he'll respond to Beans..maybe not a whole record like Nas..but he will with a verse in some slick kind of way...Nas put out a supposed Jay-z killa type track.."Ether"..then ended up getting signed by Jay..It's kinda hard to fuck with Jay..but nothing is impossible..I'm still rooting for Beans and hope he puts on some Fiyah at Jigga..just for the sport of it!

It seems like Beans still isn't learning the business side of industry 'friendships'.

Yea Beans..for real....I hope he manipulates the business this time for his own good

Look at this NIGGA!!..Dudes are saying Jay-z is part of the SECRET SOCIETY..Hahahaha..Free Mason's...and he is Gay!.. ..Damn this shit is crazy..I'm ROTFLMAO...I'm all for a good conspiracy theory and have read/watch a bunch..even the Jay-z claims but this is too much!

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This post has been edited by Alfredo_fedicini: Nov 6 2009, 01:54 PM

[bpolite]

..I hear you talkin'...Jay-z "Already Home"..so to say..but he'll respond to Beans..maybe not a whole record like Nas..but he will with a verse in some slick kind of way...Nas put out a supposed Jay-z killa type track.."Ether"..then ended up getting signed by Jay..It's kinda hard to fuck with Jay..but nothing is impossible..I'm still rooting for Beans and hope he puts on some Fiyah at Jigga..just for the sport of it!




Yea Beans..for real....I hope he manipulates the business this time for his own good

Look at this NIGGA!!..Dudes are saying Jay-z is part of the SECRET SOCIETY..Hahahaha..Free Mason's...and he is Gay!.. ..Damn this shit is crazy..I'm ROTFLMAO...I'm all for a good conspiracy theory and have read/watch a bunch..even the Jay-z claims but this is too much!
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OK I'm crying from the Rihanna interview. I can't forgive Chris for this. But, this video made laugh! I mean ?

[bpolite]

Beans, Beans!!!! You gotta waite until the ink dries before you get to talking, "oohhh noo beans!!! say it aint so!" lol Fif speaking in regards to beans saying he is a part of G unit.

“I had a meeting with him today,” 50 said Thursday. “First we gotta start with the music — where’s the music? Then we have to get into what it would take to bring him over to G-Unit as a record company. You can’t sign a deal in a conversation — it’s a process. We’ll see what happens.”

Fif did note that he thinks Beanie is capable lyrically and looks forward to hearing what he has in his vaults. “I would listen to what he has,” Fif explained. “His skills haven’t diminished. Nine times out of 10, he’ll have something workable already on deck. When you’re dealing with artists who have been established longer than you, it’s a process. You have to figure out exactly where they are at before you commit to being a part of those projects, because they have habits and they’ve been conditioned for something different. You have to figure out exactly what that is before you dive in.”

The Broad Street Bully isn’t the only established MC Fif is thinking about extending an invitation to. “I got artists who I’m looking at,” he said. “A few of them aren’t actively available for me to do different things with them. But I’m looking to sign new artists into the actual company.”

50 Hey Beans! You have been USED!

Next month:
Yayo: yo, son is that Beans calling you again?
50 : yeah yo, I guess I'm going to have to change the number again
Yayo: You I'm hungry pick up and tell him to come up here and sign the papers and bring some cheesesteaks?